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Rockngene Corporal
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 151 Location: Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: Polymer clay = danger? |
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To all of you that have played around with polymer clay...
Maybe it's nothing, maybe I'm just worrying but.... I read one day that using polymer clay to do jewellery like plugs, tapers, tunnels, all the things you can put in your ear to stretch it, was kind of dangerous because the polymer clay contains a toxic substance that can go into your organism and cause some invisible damages, like infertility(is that a word?). The article was really about the ear stretching items, not the other jewellery like necklaces or rings.
Does anybody heard something like this somewhere?
'Cause I was about to make some jewellery but now that I've read this, I'm scared and I don't want to try. _________________ -- Shutting down the system --
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Phoenix Colonel
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 1108 Location: Maidstone, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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EHH I'm royally bummed then.
I wore a fimo plug for a while (didn't find out it was fimo until about 3 months later). I've never heard of polymer clay causing infertility... _________________ You only wish I was still sexually harassing you!
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~*~*~MistressH~*~*~ Lieutenant
Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 502 Location: w.mids UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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sorry but ive never heard that before. you are more likely to get ill from chemical hair dyes or traffic pollution in cities IMO
edit: taken from http://www.acminet.org/ACMI_Addl_Response_Polymer.htm
In October 2000 concerns were raised about the use of phthalates in toys, at which time ACMI polymer clay manufacturers voluntarily had their products re-evaluated to address these concerns. ACMI’s consulting toxicological team at Duke University Medical Center (DUKE) evaluated these polymer clays for acute and chronic hazards by all potential routes of exposure and found none. A DUKE study revealed that you would need to overheat and destroy the clay product in the oven-heating process to release hydrogen gas, and <0.1% of the phthalate esters would be released with no breakdown of the polyvinyl chloride. Woodhall Stopford, M.D., principal toxicologist of the ACMI Certification Program, stated that “Phthalate esters found in these polymer clays offer little or no acute toxicity concerns and are not a chronic hazard concern even assuming a large (24 mg) daily ingestion of these clays.” Dr. Stopford’s risk assessment, as well as an executive summary, are available on the DUKE website at http://duketox.mc.duke.edu. Simply click on “Recent Toxicological Issues” on the home page and then scroll down to “Phthalates in Polymer Clays” to access the risk assessment and executive summary. Additional research conducted by the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) also found that phthalates in infant/children’s toys pose little or no risk to humans. _________________ ~an angel too soon~
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Griffyn The Dogs D'Amour
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 3836 Location: Wolves/Cannock
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I personally think its another scare tactic _________________ Waysted on The Mazzanti Effect's first show! See Myspace for more details.
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Ice_Pick_Abortions Retardo Girl
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1625 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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this is actually quite well known and googling it brings up a few articles. it's why i personally won't wear fimo in my ears _________________ Alternative Forums - The online home of Rock, Punk and Metal music.
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Rockngene Corporal
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 151 Location: Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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This is why I'm confused.
I'm torn between the different opinions.
And this is why I'm asking advices here lol _________________ -- Shutting down the system --
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Ice_Pick_Abortions Retardo Girl
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1625 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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i personally wouldn't take the risk and i don't wear cheap jewellery anyway as it usually proves more trouble than it's worth in the long run _________________ Alternative Forums - The online home of Rock, Punk and Metal music.
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starlight Sergeant Major
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 471 Location: Reading/Bradford
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like basically, they don't know.. but there may be a risk.. like mobile phone thingys, I guess.. some people say they're bad for you, others don't.. I've not read anything about this, but from the different opinions it sounds like they don't know for sure.
I've worn a fimo plug for a little while.. made it myself since I had nothing else, haha.. I dunno. _________________ deviantart |
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SoupyGeorge *soda*pop*fairy*
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1138 Location: Aurora, CO, US
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Rockngene Corporal
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 151 Location: Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I agree a bit more with starlight...
Seems like nobody really knows.... The scientists suppose that maybe they don't know but there is a possiblity even if it is not sure....
I just don't want to hurt my insides.
But Fimo plugs can be sooooo beautiful lol
It would be perfect if it was only a myth! _________________ -- Shutting down the system --
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SoupyGeorge *soda*pop*fairy*
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1138 Location: Aurora, CO, US
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iamdolleyes Captain
Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 771 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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well, it isn't recommended to wear anything but typical piercing jewelry metals in a fresh/new piercing - and i believe a freshly or newly stretched piercing is included in that
i wouldn't wear fimo plugs in a fresh stretch, but if they were long healed i probably wouldn't see much wrong with wearing a unique pair once in a while
polymer clay is pretty safe - it gives off some fumes while baking, but they are not major enough to even need a separate oven from your cooking oven so it's not that risky compared to other substances i've worked with
i wouldn't eat it, and i probably wouldn't use it for long term wear just because it isn't exactly a 'skin safe' product like silicone rubber or titanium are, but if it's very well treated (moulded, sanded etc) it's probably not that bad
infertility? i would think that if it were to cause that the people who are baking a lot of it at home are going to be affected before someone wearing a set of plugs is. breathing fumes is a pretty direct way of ingestion.
the msds sheets are all available online, just look them up _________________ i like my coffee black
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~*~*~MistressH~*~*~ Lieutenant
Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 502 Location: w.mids UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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i think that microwaves and mobile phones would be far more harmful than polymer clay. i imagine that if you over cooked and destroyed the structure of it then maybe chemicals could be released but how much clay do you use per plug? not a lot
there are far far worse things out there imo. also your piercing hole isnt exactly an open wound is it? _________________ ~an angel too soon~
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Ice_Pick_Abortions Retardo Girl
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1625 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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~*~*~MistressH~*~*~ wrote: |
there are far far worse things out there imo. also your piercing hole isnt exactly an open wound is it? |
it is until healed and even then you're likely to have microscopic tears _________________ Alternative Forums - The online home of Rock, Punk and Metal music.
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Kodachi148 Private
Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 58 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Me personally, I think polymer clay is fine (but then again I could be saying this just so not to offset my OCD) but if it really irks you then I would suggest you coat it in something clear. Maybe that could do something. _________________ Kodachi |
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Ice_Pick_Abortions Retardo Girl
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1625 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Kodachi148 wrote: | Me personally, I think polymer clay is fine (but then again I could be saying this just so not to offset my OCD) but if it really irks you then I would suggest you coat it in something clear. Maybe that could do something. |
that would just be adding more chemicals.. _________________ Alternative Forums - The online home of Rock, Punk and Metal music.
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Lettuce Private
Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 35 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
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I've worked with polymer clay for years (professionally and because my mother never bought me a Sega) and providing you bake it correctly you'll never have a problem with it. I've never heard about infertility risks, only not burning it, but that's logic isn't it?
I wouldn't use it to make jewellery for tongue or lip piercings, or anything else that goes in your mouth. But I've made plugs with the stuff from about 2mm to 6mm (stretched with surgical steel though) and they don't give me any hassle, and I usually have very sensitive skin.
It all boils down to your gut feeling, if you're worried about any associated healthrisks, then don't wear them, but if you're not then go crazy! I personally don't have an issue with Fimo whatsoever, it's less harmful than most of the stuff in the studios I work in
And if you wana varnish it (Although I like it better just polished to a high shine) then I guess you could use clear nail varnish. |
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